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[REVERSE ENGINEERING] => Off topic => Topic started by: Conflict on June 23, 2006, 05:54:21 PM

Title: Program????
Post by: Conflict on June 23, 2006, 05:54:21 PM

Je mi jasny, ze tutory v pdf asi jeste dlouho psat nebudem, tak me napadlo...
Kdyz sou ty prazdniny, neudelame nakej program? Neco jako kdysi SHADeR, ale aby to delali vsichni a ne jenom jeden. Byla to fakt makacka :cool:
Vim, ze delate v ruznych jazycich, ale neni problem udelat dll nebo obj.

Jakejkoliv program, jednoduchej, slozitej, na ochranu, na lamani ochran atd....

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Iron Screw on June 23, 2006, 06:01:56 PM

OK
Napady?

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: CZerezpiCZkin on June 23, 2006, 08:00:27 PM

V ramci svojich moznosti (cas a znalosti) sa pridam aj ja... Ale ako sa uz pytal IS: Napady?

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Iron Screw on June 24, 2006, 01:06:35 PM

Koukam, vsichni jsou plni napadu .... ani newim co si z nich vybrat :)

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 24, 2006, 02:12:05 PM

No ja uvazuju,ale fakt me nenapada co.Mozna tak nejaky plugin do ollyho nebo ja nevim...

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 26, 2006, 06:52:45 PM

Tak jeden napad sem dostal.Ted jen va?i reakci.Je to Anti prvek.
Jednalo by se o měnění hwnd okna,tím by odpadl třeba v ollym attach.
A dalsi napad.Přesuny bloku kodu v pameti.

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Conflict on June 26, 2006, 08:01:35 PM

co myslis tim presunem kodu v pameti? neni zadna prdel neco presunout, musis relokovat kazdej odkaz smerujici do pameti atd. vzdyt si to zkus. navic mi to nak postrada smysl :confused:

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 26, 2006, 08:25:15 PM

No to byl jen takovej "blbej" napad.Proste proti debugu bys presouval kousky pameti a zaroven by se to linkovalo.Sam to nemam ani tak predstavene,jen sem to tak placl.Hlavni tema je to hwnd.

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: llAmElliK on June 26, 2006, 10:15:57 PM

Zmena HWND - ze by stejny napad jako ma example ImpREC nebo nektery olly samotny?
AD presun dat:
"Vymozenost" spesl packeru a CD ochran - ale jak rika Conflict - zadna "pr*el"..

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 27, 2006, 07:59:53 AM

No jestli je to stejny napad vazne nevim,ale je to mozny,nepopírám...
Ten presun není nejleh?í,ale učinný...

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 29, 2006, 06:04:04 PM

Tak mam dalsi navrh.Co takhle udelat nejaky code ripper,ktery by tripnul z programu treba cely call vcetne subcallu atd.Dalo by se to vyuzit pri stolen bytech apod.

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Conflict on June 29, 2006, 08:07:49 PM

na to se nemusi delat program. staci to v Olly precist :D

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: CZerezpiCZkin on June 29, 2006, 09:46:44 PM

llAmElliK mi raz postol TMG Ripper Studio (nazov pisem z pamati, tak sa mozem mylit...), a presne taketo pouzitie by mal mat ten nastroj. takze neviem, ci by bolo vhodne kopirovat nieci napad... ak aj, tak len s radikalnymi vylepseniami, nech to prinesie aj nieco nove.

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Iron Screw on June 29, 2006, 11:34:54 PM

jo myslim ze na tohle tema tady par programu je ....

Title: Re: Program????
Post by: Master on June 30, 2006, 07:31:49 AM

co sem se dival,tak to ripper studio neripuje teda cely cally ale oznacenou sekci od do,coz se da taky vyuzit.

Fajn slečny,tak nekdo nejaky napad?